The specification for orifice flange sets is not particularly clear about ring groove connections for these flange assemblies. Our proprietary CAD flange drawings can give the impression that ring grooves are cut into the face of a flange that may be considered “flat face,” however this is not the case if you review the dimensions. For RTJ orifice flanges, the flange thickness *exclusive* of the depth of the groove must meet the same minimum thickness as that of a standard raised face orifice flange assembly, exclusive of the height of the raised face. Visually speaking, though it may *appear* that the flange groove is cut into a flat face, you can confirm with the dimensions outlined in the B16.36 flange specification that it is more accurately what some would refer to as a “full face” with extra thickness (how much thickness depends on the depth of the groove, just as it would be defined in ASME/ANSI B16.5). Some manufacturers still machine down the should of the face to make it appear similar to the raised portion of a proper RTJ groove flange, in order to avoid initial confusion. Also, note that larger RTJ orifice flanges will require angular taps to ensure proper clearance with the bottom of the groove, which cannot be altered or modified in any way.
In other words: NO, you cannot take a raised face orifice flange, machine down the face, add a groove, and just call it an RTJ orifice flange. Minimum dimensional requirements for flanges must meet the tolerances outlined in ASME / ANSI B16.36 and B16.5 No shortcuts, or else you are out of compliance!
Please refer to pages 75-76 in our catalog to confirm Ring Type Joint Flange dimensions. Link to catalog below.
If you still have questions, a member of our sales team would be more than happy to help!
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Or email us at: Sales@texasflange.com
The American Water Works Association has suspended the utilization of “hub” type flanges in their C207 and associated specifications. All flanges per AWWA specs are either “ring” type slip on flanges or “blind” type flanges. The aforementioned “hub” type flanges as outlined in AWWA C207 Class D and C207 Class E are derived from ASME specifications 125# Lightweight and 125# Slip On, respectively. We will still provide flanges as dual certified to both of these specifications, with the understanding that they will not be manufactured and stamped per the latest update of the AWWA standard.
As is standard from Texas Flange, you may request these flanges in any commercially available material grade you require. The most common are still carbon flanges, mild steel flanges and stainless steel flange variants. Please be advised that while many of these items are available in stock in carbon steel grades, most stainless, chrome, and nickel alloy type flanges are made to order, given the popularity of carbon steel flanges for the majority of water works flange and piping projects. Their lower pressure requirements and ambient temperature operation typically mean a more exotic alloy flange is not required. Any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact any of our trained sales staff here at Texas Flange.
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Boltex and Weldbend Corporation Applaud ITC Preliminary Injury Decision on Unfairly Traded Imports
Houston, TX and Argo, IL, August 12, 2016 – Today Boltex Manufacturing Co., L.P. (“Boltex”) and Weldbend Corporation (“Weldbend”) announced that the U.S. International Trade Commission (“ITC”) preliminarily determined that imports of finished carbon steel flanges from India, Italy and Spain are causing injury to the domestic industry. The Commission vote was 6-0, resulting in an affirmative decision. The ruling by the ITC demonstrates that there is a reasonable indication that imports are injuring the domestic flange industry and American workers. As a result of this decision, these cases against foreign producers in the above-named countries will proceed.“We applaud the affirmative decision found by the ITC, ruling that imports of finished carbon steel flanges from India,Italy and Spain have caused injury to U.S. producers,” says Frank Bernobich, President of Boltex. “Today’s vote marks a step in the right direction to restore fair trade practices and allow the market to operate on a level playing field.”“As family owned and operated businesses, the decision to file petitions against these unfair trade practices was a significant undertaking, but one that was necessary for our survival,” says James Coulas, Jr., President and CEO of Weldbend. “For generations Weldbend and its employees have manufactured great products and we only ask for the ability to operate in a fair market. We are extremely pleased with the ITC’s preliminary decision and that our cases can proceed.”
Boltex and Weldbend filed petitions concurrently with the ITC and the U.S. Department of Commerce (“Commerce”) on June 30, 2016. The ITC initiated their investigation on June 30, 2016 and Commerce initiated their investigations on July 20, 2016.Commerce will calculate antidumping margins and subsidy rates, which are designed to offset the amount by which the product is sold at less than fair value and the amount by which the product benefits from unfair government subsidies. In the Department’s initiation notice the Department estimated the dumping margins for steel flanges as “(1) India ranges from 17.80 to 37.84 percent; (2) Italy ranges from 15.76 percent to 204.53percent; and (3) Spain ranges from 13.19 percent to 24.43 percent” The subsidy rate from India was estimated to be above de minimis. Commerce is currently scheduled to make its preliminary subsidy determination on September 23, 2016, and its preliminary dumping determinations on . If an affirmative decision is found, Commerce will instruct U.S. Customs to collect antidumping duty cash deposits to offset the subsidies.
Just a friendly reminder…here at Texas Flange we try to make the flange requisition and purchase experience as seamless as possible for our customers. This includes providing commodity stock pieces by the bulk load, as well as creating custom flange pieces for unique applications. Regardless of the scope of your flange inquiry, our sales and technical support staff is trained to provide you with whatever you need, even if your assigned sales member is out of the office.
All emails are monitored and answered when any individual is out of the office, so that you don’t need to hunt down a different email address in order to get your questions answered and your orders processed. Just send in your inquiry for flanges as you normally would, and we will answer back from the email address of the same representative you are familiar with. This allows your flange sales rep to review the correspondence from their own email archives when they return and gives them the ability to ensure all requirements are communicated clearly to every member of the production team.
All flange orders are digitally archived in a manner that allows for sales and support staff to make the necessary notations up through and beyond the shipping and invoicing process and as a result, all sales staff should be able to address any concerns you may have regarding your flange order.
Always remember that we at Texas Flange are working hard with our production team to review your request and provide accurate pricing and lead time as necessary.
We have received several inquiries over the years for nozzle type flanges, commonly referred to as “long weld necks.” These types of flanges and the different varieties in which they are offered are meant to replace pipe, not weld up to it, and as such we would like to clarify for everyone in the industry that these items do not have schedule bores. A typical weld neck flange has a weld prep at the tip of the neck to weld up to matching pipe, whereas long weld neck flanges, or “nozzles,” are square cut at the ends for the purpose of utilization with your tank or alternate assembly. As such, many inquiries which we receive include schedule bores that we eliminate in our quote reply to our customers, as these schedules are not applicable.
Our nozzle flanges are available in the more common lengths of 9”, 12”, and 16”, as well as any larger or smaller overall lengths to suit your needs. Typically, the larger the nominal size and pressure class flange, the larger the overall length requested. However, this is entirely subjective and at the discretion of the customer. Contrary to popular suggestion, there is no universal “standard” length because these parts are made in accordance with the application necessary. We offer a variety of barrel sizes, from the more familiar long weld necks, heavy barrels, and equal barrels. We also provide intermediate barrel products depending on your needs. As most regular weld neck flanges, these nozzles are typically made from forged carbon steel and stainless steel grades, though we do get the occasional request for chrome alloy and nickel alloy nozzle flanges. Feel free to submit your own technical drawing for quotation to our sales department and we would be happy to help get you the flanges you need.